Politicians vs Palace. All Umno state assemblyman from Terengganu DEMAND Idris Jusoh to be Menteri Besar OR they will resign from their post - By-election. Story coming.
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All 22 Terengganu Assemblymen have unanimously agreed to boycott the swearing-in ceremony of the Menteri Besar scheduled to be held tomorrow at the Istana Maziah in Kuala Terengganu and insisted that state BN chairman Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh holds that position after the coalition won 2/3 majority in the state during the General Election.
It was said that several of the Assemblymen were willing to resign if someone else becomes MB.
The Palace has announced that Datuk Ahmad Said, 51, the state assemblyman for Kijal, will be made MB. The swearing-in ceremony will be held tomorrow morning.
Terengganu is the only state that has yet to have a MB since the GE two weeks ago.
Saturday, March 22, 2008
Political monsoon in Terengganu
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Orang MELAYU terengganu ni memangla biadap terhadap sultan sendiri. Lupa ke sumpah orang melayu dengan sultan nye.
ReplyDeleteRaja adil raja disembah
raja zalim raja disanggah
Mana zalimnye sultan terengganu jika dia masih melantik Menteri Besar yang melayu dan muslim dan kehendak RAKYATnya dan BUKAN KEHENDAK PEMBESARnya?
Kurang AJAR pembesar ADUN MELAYU terengganu. Zaman dulu bukan je buang negeri tapi PANCUNG DAN SULA jawapanye.
similar case with Perak n Perlis. Lets so what happens..
ReplyDeleteWah sekarang 23 ADUN UMNO Terengganu nak jadikan Si Dris tu Sultan Ka? La ni pemimpin2 UMNO harap beringat ia, jangan menderhaka pada Sultan buruk padahnya.Rakyat Terengganu pasti memerhati gelagat gelojoh pemimpin2 UMNO.
ReplyDeleteAnak Jawa Johor
Yes, lets have another fight. It makes life more interesting.
ReplyDeleteOr, all of them become Independents and let the State be ruled by Independents.
Maybe another solution. We have one MB who also rule alone. He holds all the other 10 Exco posts as well. A real one man show.
The monsoon has come early this year.
Dulu Perlis, skrg T'ganu pulak...
ReplyDeletePak Lah makin pening...
org2 BN kutuk LKS minta ADUN DAP Perak boikot, skrg diorg pun nk buat benda sama... xder ke yg nk kutuk?!!
Yang di Pertuan Agong dari Terengganu ... Berani Dris punye konco2 ni.
ReplyDeleteCeh, Penderhaka! It is totally unacceptable and perhaps Raja & rakyat terengganu should sent this ADUNs out of Terengganu. People still can remember what Idris Jusoh said in TV, "Siapapun yang terpilih, tidak mengapa...saya redho dengan qada' dan qadar...". Cakap tak serupa bikin.
ReplyDeleteNewly appointed Datuk Ahmad Said will be a caretaker MB and Sultan shall ask him to call for a snap poll at state level. Terengganu will be 6th state under Barisan Rakyat ruling.
ReplyDeletethis guy is the new MB ofterengganu?haha..dlam persidangan DUN pon gaduh.. sabar ya org terengganu..nasib badan..
ReplyDeleteUMNO BIADAP.
ReplyDeleteI am urging Your Heighness Sultan Terengganu a.k.a our Agong to proceed with the event tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteTell them: You want to play rough? We'll play rough. Lets see who will be burnt.
I dont know the real thing happening, but its like faceless creature, this Ideris Jusoh guy, right?
muka tak malu. pipi tersorong sorong.
More to happen soon.Lets all wait and see.
ReplyDeleteMaka Sultan Tganu telah membuat keputusan yang bijak untuk tidak melantik Si Mat Deris sebagai MB.Kalau dengan Sultan pun dia dan konco2nya tak hormat, apatah lagi orang2 kampung seperti kita.Kurang ajar punya manusia.Biar by-election.Nanti PAS sapu bersih lagi patut! Mungkin this comes from God.Kita kena terima as events unfold themselves.Takbir!
ReplyDeleteah boycott pi la..resign la bagus..perompak duit rakyat..poorah..macam la sultan nak pi pujuk...pi hantar kuda dia tendang buntut depa ada lah....thieves
ReplyDeleteWoooaaa.. ini macam mana boleh.. Itu hari bila Lim Kiat Siang cakap mau boikot, manyak UMNO punya olang bising. Kit Siang Biadap lah.. Tak tahu adat lah macam macam.. oo. Tapi sikalang apa pasat itu manyak adat punya olang bikin ini macam. Tuaku YG Mulia Sultan bila sudah talkak suka, lu patut pi saja. Jgn mau tunjuk samseng. Lu ingat Tuanku Sultan Terengganu takut sama lu olang kaa? Ini olang UMNO mau belajar sama olang DAP.Tengok Lim Kiat Siang, bila dia sedar dia salah, terus mintak ampun. Itu ada adat punya olang. Bila Sultan sudah tak mahu, tapi Idris masih tunjuk degil macam keldai bunting, itu tak da malu punya olang. Sikalang saya halap pemuda UMNO Selangor buat tunjuk perasaan kerana itu idris dan kawan kawan dia derhaka.
ReplyDeleteYang di Pertuan Agong Terengganu stand up for the people! That's the way to go! The cronies THAT only think of themselves should GO!
ReplyDeletelupa nak tambah ...main lagi dengan HANTU2...langsung sendiri dah kena EXORCISE....POETIC JUSOHSTICE..KAH KAH...I love to gloat meh...
ReplyDeleteMaka kami rakyat Malaysia berikrar akan menumpukan seluruh tenaga dan usaha kami untuk mencapai cita-cita tersebut berdasarkan atas prinsip-prinsip yang berikut:
ReplyDeleteKepercayaan kepada Tuhan
Kesetiaan kepada Raja dan Negara
Keluhuran Perlembagaan
Kedaulatan Undang-undang
Kesopanan dan Kesusilaan
So, pandai2 la interpret ya.
Sultan perkenan, kami jatuhkan saja mereka yang derhaka ni.
Bangsa melayu sendiri tak hormat Sultan. Tak tahu la apa nk jadi.
UMNO BIADAP!!!
ReplyDeleteI wonder...
ReplyDeleteIs there going to be condemnation in Utusan Malaysia and in blogs that these assemblymen are "biadab" towards the Sultan of Terrengganu ?
apa pulak kata media MSM, setakat ni perkataan DURHAKA belum keluar lagi..mana NGO yg pakat hentam Lim Kit Siang..takan diam aje kott
ReplyDeleteDon't understand this -- ALL assemblymen gonna boycott? including the nominated one?
ReplyDeleteOr just all UMNo assenblymen, other than nominated one?
In any case, when LKS say boycott, call him menderhaka.
Now I'd like to see all 22 assemblymen become eunuchs.
Derih aku ingat mu resign lah. Cukuk lah empak tahung mu ngampu si Dolloh dengang budok patrick dan kairi tu. Kami rakyat Terengganu tak dapat apa-apa pung.
ReplyDeleteDaulat Tuanku, Daulat Tuanku,Daulat Tuanku
Pemuda-Pemuda Kuala Besut
One thing that Malaysia Today would like to raise is the matter of
ReplyDeleteTerengganu's oil royalty which we hope Mahathir will address on 28
July. Since the mid-1970s, Terengganu had been enjoying a 5% royalty
on all the oil and gas extracted in the state. That is what is
provided for under the Petroleum Development Act. In fact, not only
Terengganu, but any state in Malaysia where oil and gas is extracted
they would enjoy the same. However, in 2000, this royalty was
withdrawn and converted to Wang Ehsan (goodwill money). Suddenly, the
RM800 million or so a year that Terengganu was supposed to get as its
5% share of the oil and gas revenue was transferred out of the state
and into the hands of one man, Idris Jusoh.
Malaysia was then already suffering from an outbreak of JE. But in
Terengganu it was JE of another kind, Jusoh Enterprise, Idris Jusoh's
family business. Jusoh Enterprise or JE was suddenly flush with funds,
RM800 million a year to be exact. Then, in 2004, Umno, under the
stewardship of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, won back the state from the
opposition. But the state did not win back its 5% oil royalty. The
Wang Ehsan continued and Idris Jusoh, who now became the Chief
Minister, continued to single-handedly manage the fund. Even the State
Economic Development Corporation (SEDC) and the Terengganu State
Economic Planning Unit (UPENT) were left totally in the dark. One man,
Idris Jusoh, decided how the money was spent, and it is a lot of
money.
But the new Prime Minister, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, would not tolerate
one man managing the state's coffers. He wanted Idris Jusoh's hands
out of the RM800 million a year cash box. However, to revert to the 5%
royalty only meant that the money would come directly under state
control. That would not serve their purpose. They wanted direct
control of the RM800 million. Now it was under the control of the
Prime Minister's Department but passed down to Idris Jusoh's hands.
What they needed to do was to get Idris Jusoh's hands out of the
equation.
Then Khairy Jamaluddin, Abdullah's son-in-law cum adviser, came out
with a fantastic new 'umbrella concept', better than even Mahathir's.
They wanted control of the RM800 million a year. But they did not want
to get it out of Idris Jusoh's hands by putting it into the hands of
the state. That would merely be a case of out of the frying pan, into
the fire. They wanted direct control of the money without Idris Jusoh
deciding on how the money is spent.
And this is how they did it.
First they appointed Wan Farid, Khairy's 'running dog', as Abdullah's
Political Secretary. Then they appointed Wan Hisham, Wan Farid's
brother, as the State Exco Member in-charge of tourism. Then they gave
Patrick Lim, Khairy's business partner, the sole monopoly of all state
tourism projects. Now the network is intact and Idris Jusoh has been
cut off.
Patrick Lim's job is to create all sorts of state tourism projects at
hugely inflated prices. He would then propose these projects to Wan
Hisham, the man in-charge of tourism. Wan Hisham would then pass them
on to his brother, Wan Farid. Wan Farid would then pass them on to
Khairy. Idris Jusoh would of course be left out of the loop and he
would only know about them when it was a fait accompli -- as the
Malays would say, "Nasi sudah jadi bubur."
They built 30 houses at RM1 million each on an island in the
Terengganu River. They launched a RM300 million a year yacht race
called the Monsoon Cup. Hundreds of millions a year is being spent to
'attract tourists to Terengganu'. It seems this year the amount of
Wang Ehsan has shot up from RM800 million to RM1 billion -- so there
is even more money to play around with.
To ensure that Idris Jusoh keeps his hands out of the cash box,
Abdullah himself chairs the state meetings though he is the Prime
Minister and not the Terengganu Chief Minister. Of course, Idris
Jusoh, being the Chief Minister, is allowed to sit in on these
meetings though he has no say on what they propose. Patrick Lim,
though he is not in the government, is also allowed to attend these
meetings.
Abdullah would then propose all sorts of tourism projects conjured by
Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Khairy. Details are of course not discussed;
only the gist of things and the amounts involved. Whenever Idris Jusoh
raises any questions, he would be told to 'leave it all to Patrick Lim
who knows what to do'. Idris Jusoh is not to involve himself in the
details.
After awhile Idris Jusoh got quite pissed and tried to resist. One
project that he knew nothing about was placed before him and he was
told by Patrick Lim to sign the papers. But how could he sign the
papers when he knew nothing about it and would eventually have to bear
responsibility for it?
Patrick Lim walked out of Idris Jusoh's office and phoned Wan Farid
who complained to Khairy. Within an hour Idris Jusoh received a phone
call from Abdullah who ordered him to sign the papers, which he of
course did straight away.
Patrick Lim's hold on Abdullah was apparent to all but somehow not to
Idris Jusoh. One day Abdullah visited Terengganu to chair the regular
meetings on how to spend Terengganu's RM800 million (which is now RM1
billion because of the increase in oil prices). Idris Jusoh fetched
Abdullah from the airport but before his car could move Patrick Lim's
car cut in front of Idris Jusoh's car and Abdullah got out of Idris
Jusoh's car and got into Patrick Lim's car. Idris Jusoh should have
realised then who really runs Terengganu.
Yes, RM1 billion a year is a lot of money. This money, which should
belong to Terengganu, is not going to the state. It is going to Wan
Hisham, Wan Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy. And Abdullah chairs the
state meetings to decide how the money is spent. And Wan Hisham, Wan
Farid, Patrick Lim and Khairy help spend the money. And they spend it
all. And Idris Jusoh has no say in how it is spent. And if he refuses
to sign the papers he will get a phone call from Abdullah.
Now do you know who runs this country? Abdullah says he and not his
son-in-law runs this country. Idris Jusoh however will tell you that
Khairy runs this country. And Khairy also runs Terengganu and manages
its RM1 billion a year through Wan Hisham, Wan Farid and Patrick Lim.
And Abdullah chairs the Terengganu State meetings on behalf of Khairy
and according to the plan on how Patrick Lim wishes to spend the RM1
billion a year.
And now do you know why Mahathir is so pissed? And he has every reason
to be pissed. In fact, I too am pissed. And that is why I agree that
Mahathir stays pissed with Abdullah and his son-in-law. The Terengganu
issue alone is enough for me to get pissed. And rest assured that
Terengganu is but the tip of the iceberg.
Yes, it is nice being able to walk in the corridors of power. And much
can you do when you walk in the corridors of power. And RM1 billion a
year is nice to manage if you have that power to do so. And when you
walk in the corridors of power you would of course have that power.
GE2008 made Pak Lah lose his clout and aslo his guts to deal with palace. The present palace interference does not happen by itself. It arises due to the failings of the UMNO bigwigs. It is the result of their arrogance, incompetence and immoral conducts.
ReplyDeleteAnak buah Idris Jusoh ni mmg kurang ajar. Semua kaki derhaka kat sultan.
ReplyDeletePoliticians and political parties should once and for all dump their arrogance. Can they not still see that the rakyat are all behind the royalty. Period.
ReplyDeleteIt is shocking to hear even after two weeks of the rocking blow to BN that politicians have still not learnt their lessons.
My question to this arrogant show is: Are you in the business of building our nation or just your party?
Good on the Royalty in putting their foot down as the rakyat has been poisoned for far too long by politicinas and their party agendas with the impression that our Sultans are mere rubber stamps.
Idris didn't do a good job for terengganu and has been rude to the sultan. He did a great job for Pak Lah and KJ. Idris should go sailing during the monsoon and enjoy the cruise.
ReplyDeleteUMNO do not be rude to the Sultan. you are worse of than DAP who you claim has insulted the Sultan.if you not happy pass a motion of no confidence during the state assembly.
UMNO perjuangkan Melayu tetapi sanggup membelakangkan keputusan Yang di Pertuan Agong dan bertindak kurang hajar?
ReplyDeleteDaulat Tuanku
Kerana kuasa dan pangkat! Hei orang Terenganu...Idris = Patrick Lim la!
ReplyDeleteHJG
Terengganu by-election? Greatttt...
ReplyDeleteNow PAS-PKR have a second chance to take over Terengganu.
They were very vocal with LKS in Perak.
ReplyDeleteNow UMNO boycotting, let's await UMNO's "tirade" ...
are the UMNO guys going to protest the Sultan now?
ReplyDeleteIn Perak, they protested DAP for being 'rude' to the Sultan. Now it's opposite in Terengganu, the UMNO guys are being rude to the Sultan.
Maybe the opposition should just form a minority government then.
I thought "ini bukan budaya UMNO"? Can the politicians make up their minds? Isn't this called erm, derhaka? Or does that only apply to the non-BN parties?
ReplyDeleteDon't forget he is also the yang dipertuan agung, if he is pushed too far all he has to do in cll the ec chairman and fire him , royal commission to investigate fraud in elections, and there goes bn majority, you think this cannot happen, he has the rakyat behind him, lets boycott bn / umno,and have a demonstration calling for the support of the AGUNGGGGG, SAYA SOKONG
ReplyDeleteWHY IN MALAYSIA THE is double standards, umno biadap no problem, this has to stop, these pariah dogs show no respect to the office of the sultan who also happens to be the present DYMM AGUNG
ReplyDeletetuanku, cuba bagi sikit penampar kat sekor2 adun nih.
ReplyDelete~anon11.55
Tak patut buat macam tu, tak menghormati kesultanan Melayu, mcm mana nak menyatukan melayu dan nak berjuang untuk bangsa melayu ni. Masa DAP buat mcm tu pada Sultan Perak semua orang marah, sekarang kalau sesama Melayu buat lagi la parah. Buat malu je, mcm ni saya nak mengaku Melayu pun malu,dah lah masa saya belajar di Universiti di luar negara dulu ada lecturer yang kata melayu ni bangsa yang layu.
ReplyDeletePak Lah menggong..UMNO benggong! Aku tenguk bendera UMNO pun dah meluat sekarang~!
ReplyDeleteHJG
OK..... let us see those UMNOputra or UMNO NGOs taat kepada Sultan or taat kepada UMNO.......
ReplyDeleteLet's wait for these "Melayu" and "Melayu" NGOs' demonstrations to show their loyalty to Sultan and ask those 23 ADUN biadap to apologize to Sultan and RAKYAT who voted them in.
.......can't wait..........
THE LAST TIME ALL THE COMMENTATORS & A BUNCH OF BLOGGERS...
ReplyDeleteJUST WHACKED THAT CHINAMAN KOW-KOW...
SO WHAT YOU PARIAH RACISTS GOING TO DO WITH THIS BUNCH OF SULTAN-HATERS FROM T'GGANU?
UMNO is not interested in Malay unity. It's interested in UMNO unity to get what it wants.
ReplyDeleteameno under seige? woi - time for murid murid ameno to bring out the keris to mempertahankan hak melayu ataupun ketuanan melayu. wuahahahahahah.....
ReplyDeleteTak patut buat macam tu, tak menghormati kesultanan Melayu, mcm mana nak menyatukan melayu dan nak berjuang untuk bangsa melayu ni. Masa DAP buat mcm tu pada Sultan Perak semua orang marah, sekarang kalau sesama Melayu buat lagi la parah. Buat malu je, mcm ni saya nak mengaku Melayu pun malu,dah lah masa saya belajar di Universiti di luar negara dulu ada lecturer yang kata melayu ni bangsa yang layu.
ReplyDeleteTERBARU: Tindakan disiplin jika Ahmad Said angkat sumpah
ReplyDeleteSetiausaha Agung UMNO, Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor berkata, ADUN Kijal, Datuk Ahmad Said boleh dikenakan tindakan disiplin jika meneruskan upacara mengangkat sumpah sebagai Menteri Besar Terengganu esok. Ini kerana menurut beliau, watikah perlantikan Menteri Besar Terengganu telah diberikan kepada Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh dan ia merupakan keputusan parti yang perlu dipatuhi. Ditanya kenapa Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim yang juga diberikan watikah tidak dilantik menjadi Menteri Besar Perlis, Tengku Adnan berkata, di Perlis majoriti ADUN BN memberikan sokongan kepada Datuk Dr. Md. Isa Sabu dan dengan itu beliau dipilih menjadi Menteri Besar Perlis. Dalam isu Terengganu, Idris mendapat sokongan 23 ADUN BN. - 23/3/2008
Wateva.. Tengku Adnan should beheaded like what happen to Sir William Wallace from Scotland Highland.
see nice photos in kickdefella
ReplyDeleteNow they are asking BPR to investigate Ahmad Said. Rakyats pls list down all the wrongdoings; Patrick, Idiot, Idris, their cronies and proxies
Pass the list to BR, BPR, Suruhnjaya Bebas di Raja Terengganu, Istana Terengganu, People's Parliament, People's Court
Dulu, bila Lim Kit Siang meluahkan tidak setuju dgn perlantikan di Perak tapi lekas meminta maaf kerana sedar bahawa dia emosional pada masa itu (satu langkah yang berhemah dan dihormati), orang UMNO kata derhaka lah, kurang ajar lah.
ReplyDeleteTapi sekarang, UMNO dan exco-nya di Terengganu rata-rata menolak dan menentang perlantikan Sultan Terengganu.
Mana dia panggilan derhaka bagi ahli politik UMNO?
Betulkah seorang ahli politik dari kijal ditahan BPR kerana penyelewengan/salah guna kuasa?
ReplyDeleteMungkinkah bakal MB Terengganu?
good la. BN or umno needs to fork out money to raise the dead to vote again. Bonus to the dead this season.
ReplyDeleteSultan tuh lambang kedaulatan orang Melayu. Ramai gak orang UMNO ganu yang nak jadi Jebat durhaka nih. Mana pi pembela bangsa Melayu nih? Semua dok senyap jer.
ReplyDeleteMost interesting ... Melayu menderhaka kepada Sultan!
ReplyDeleteLets see if those who threaten to boycott will and those who threaten to resign will also....I doubt they would dare!
Dia orang ni belum tahu penangan Raja. Tanyalah aku orang Melaka
ReplyDeleteKepercayaan kepada Tuhan
ReplyDeleteKesetiaan kepada Raja dan Negara
Keluhuran Perlembagaan
Kedaulatan Undang-undang
Kesopanan dan Kesusilaan
Daulat Tuanku !
Durjana UMNO !
When Lim Kit Siang told his people to boycott the swearing in ceremony in Perak he was labelled derhaka dan didn't reespect the wishes of the Sultan. Now this happens what is the stand? Can only UMNO boycott the Sultan? Siapa yang menderhaka? Melayu menderhaka boleh kah? Cina menderhaka Melayu melenting! Sultan Terengganu adalah Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginga Yang Di Pertuan Agung. Jika PM bersetuju dan memberi jalan kepada boycott ini maka dia juga akan menderhaka kepada Sultan Terengganu sekaligus Yang Di Pertuan Agung. Ampun Tuanku, Beribu-ribu Ampun, patek berkenan Tuanku menggunakan kuasa Tuanku supaya mereka yang memboycott Tuanku patut dianggap durhaka dan pembelot negeri dan negara dan patut dibuang negeri Tuanku.
ReplyDeleteInstitusi agama dan Melayu, keSultanan adalah tunggaknya. Jika ADUn durhaka maka mereka tidak menghormati kedaulatan Sultan dan orang dan bangsa Melayu.
DYMM YANG DI PERTUAN AGONG.please kick this bunch of clowns out of your state.we support you.
ReplyDeleteDUALAT TUANKU DAULAT TUANKU DUALAT TUANKU.
For those durhaka politicians to resign en bloc is the best thing that could happen to Terengganu. It was the postal votes and "the accidental tourists" who put them in power anyway, not the real people of Terengganu. I voted in Terengganu, I know how was the mood on the ground then, and how crestfallen we were when the results were just the total opposite.
ReplyDeleteMoral of the story is:
1. Don't play dirty
2. Don't ever think you can outsmart everybody
3. Remember, justice is sweet
4. Also remember, God's punishment can be swift (refer to no. 1)
To Kamilia Ibrahim, if you are reading this, can i borrow and amend your petition to HRH Sultan Azlan? You just inspired me to ask the King to appoint PAS as minority government in Terengganu.
To Tun Ahmad Fairuz, if you are reading this, will you come out of retirement? We the "real" voters in Terengganu want you to be the election judge and nullify all the seats won by BN and just award it to their opponents instead (the 89-year old grandmother included)?
Open defiance. Boycott. Now ... ACA investigation. Mizan should and will be furious. Interesting to watch. Amusing even. To UMNO/BN ... don't forget ... people are watching (and laughing ...)
ReplyDeleteBangsa lain terbahak bahak melihat orang melayu tak tahu hormat Sultan.Malukan bangsa sendiri.Penderhaka harus di buang negeri..Daulat Tuanku !
ReplyDeleteto all the 22 ADUNs...Dare to go against the King! Dare go and resign!
ReplyDeleteINTERESTING... INTERESTING...
ReplyDeleteBADAWI & SULTAN OF TRENGGANU, WHO IS ALSO THE YANG DIPERTUAN AGONG...
YOUR MAJESTY... YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND OR IZZIT?
Anak-anak Terengganu? Apa nak jadi? Tak kan kamu nak diam diri bilamana orang Melayu negeri kamu sendiri derhaka kepada Sultan kamu? Mana maruah kamu? Mana jatidiri kamu? Lagikan Tuah sanggup melawan Jebat kerana menderhaka.
ReplyDeleteOrang negeri lain sudah bersuara, bila lagi kamu mahu bangkit dan terajang UMNO keluar daripada tanah anak cucu-cicit kamu? Bangkitlah, berdiri di belakang Sultan kamu, terajang sahaja UMNO itu keluar buat kali terakhirnya daripada bumi kamu. Anak-anak Terengganu di mana sahaja kamu berada, bersatu untuk masa depan anak cucu kamu.
-Anak Kelantan Prihatin
I am surprised reading this discussion. The appointment of the MB is really not a prerogative of any individual.There are clear legal provisions for the appointment.He has to command the support of the majority in the house after the election. We have a Constitutional Monarchy. He acts under advice. He cannot decide on his own unless under special circumstances here. If we allow the Monarchy to have a final say on these matters ignoring the results of the election then we are creating a very dangerous precedence.It is very important for the Monarchy to stay above politics.He should be blind whether it is umno, pkr or DAP What matters is follow procedures and constitution. We are a unique country, we have 9 Sultans. We cannot allow whims and fancies for each of them. Follow the constitution. Lets not become a pariah state.
ReplyDeleteIN this wonderful nation, thanks to Barisan Nasional, we always have two interpretations to any situation:
ReplyDeleteSituation:
BN loses a state to PAS
a) BN's version - The state is in the hands of the OPPOSITION
b) PAS' version - BN is the OPPOSITION
Situation - Lim Kit Siang gives opinion about Perak MB choice
a) BN paper: Utusan Msia - DAP Biadap
b) DAP/PAS/PKR - meet again to resolve the matter amicably
Situation in Trengganu
a) Loyal ADUNs of BN who shud know state constitution by heart - we will boycott swearing ceremony of MB
b) PAS - will attend swearing ceremony as responsible state opposition and respect State ruler's choice
So, its always a matter of interpretations, and the BN always wants the people to always accept their interpretation only.
Good try BN. But things are not the same like before-lah. Try reinventing yourselves. Come out of the divide-and-rule behaviour and you can be still relevant during the next elections.
CAN KE? WHAT IF THE SULTAN ALSO DECIDE TO BOYCOTT THE SWEARING-IN OF IDRIS...
ReplyDeleteDaulat Tuanku!
ReplyDeleteDaulat Tuanku!
Daulat Tuanku!
LKS 1 orang kasi komen boycott, kena hentam teruk teruk.
ReplyDeleteSini, dua puluh dua ADUN sumpah nak boycott, tarak apa biadap.
Megapa?
Kerana dia fikir dia MNo lagi kuat dari DYMM.
1) MNo
2) DYMM
3) Lain Lain
Tapi megapa DYMM pun masuk politik sini sana. Biar itu Election results decide siapa MB and Exco lah.
To hell with racial politics.
LKS 1 orang kasi komen boycott, kena hentam teruk teruk.
ReplyDeleteSini, dua puluh dua ADUN sumpah nak boycott, tarak apa biadap.
Megapa?
Kerana dia fikir dia MNo lagi kuat dari DYMM.
1) MNo
2) DYMM
3) Lain Lain
Tapi megapa DYMM pun masuk politik sini sana. Biar itu Election results decide siapa MB and Exco lah.
To hell with racial politics.
Bro,
ReplyDeleteShocked and amazed is all I can feel at the moment. What a bunch of hypocrites!!! I believe the Rukun Negara was drafted and ratified when NEP was introduced. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Kesetiaan Kepada Raja dan Negara one of it? Sure they represent the electorate but I'm sure the electorate would be more than happy to get rid of them if they knew the put the party ahead of King and Country!!!!
Ampun Tuanku, izinkan patik memberi cadangan agar kesemua yang menderhaka kepada Tuanku di buang Negeri. Patik yang bukan bangsa Melayu amat malu dengan tindakan 'wakil rakyat' ini. Patik pasti rakyat yang diwakil tidak akan membantah jikat Tuanku membuang mereka.
Ini bukti orang UMNO biadap, sombong dan kurang ajar. Mereka memang bersinar sahaja dalam budaya haloba tamak.
ReplyDelete..the Terengganu MB-in-waiting, in action.. see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU8a3WtsAR4
ReplyDeleteRead this from malaysiakni http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/80256
ReplyDeletesome excerpt
"Malam ini, selepas melaporkan perkembangan istana telah melantik Ahmad sebagai menteri besar, tiba-tiba sebuah stesen televisyen swasta melaporkan, seorang ahli politik Terengganu kini sedang disiasat Badan Pencegah Rasuah (BPR) berhubung beberapa projek di Kijal.
Siapakah ahli politik Terengganu yang tidak disebutkan namanya dalam laporan TV3 itu tetapi disiasat BPR kerana projek-projek di Kijal?"
I take it as this BPR (ACA) is really pro BN after all. After the Sultan announce Ahmad as the MB, they suddenly unleashed the ACA on the rogue UMNO leader for corruption charges. Surely this shows the ACA is NOT INDEPENDENT at all and follow BN instructions, no wonder corruptions charges can be a tool for selective prosecution in Malaysia!!
Media sping??? (Terengganuspeakly speaking).. dok nampok lasung cerita ADUN boikot Ahmad Said dlm TV mlm td, tapi cerita baru lagi best muncul dlm Buletin Utama & niteline tentang ADUN dari Terengganu disiasat BPR dalam projek Bdr Baru Kijal, BB Kijal Fasa 1 & Fasa 2.
ReplyDeletePuok2 ni tgh nak kerat Ahmad Said la tu kot (ADUN Kijal).
Btw, can see thumb up from DYMM Sultan Mizan for Monsoon Cup. Tuanku "berkenan" dgn monsoon cup, tapi tidak dgn Derih Jusoh, dgn patrick... Hmmm.... you guest lah...
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Sport/2093677/Article/index_html
Let's those UMNOs boikot & letak jawatan. Then, go for another election - we'll see which side rakyat will stand ....
ReplyDeleteI now have 2 favourite Sultans - Foremost the Perak's, then Terengganus and lastly Perlis's. Sultan of Selangor uses a media whisperer which does not show him in good light.
ReplyDeleteDYMM Agong... pls perservere and do what is right.
UMNO politicians- do respect the Sultan
"Maka kami rakyat malaysia berikrar akan menumpukan seluruh tenaga dan usaha kami..Kesetiaan kepada Raja dan Negara."
The irony is that UMNO is doing exactly what they preach and condemn others... again and again.
What !! This BN nincompoop are willing to resign...that's good news. We'll whack them to the bone this time, BR will have one more state. Pak Lelah, Kera Jantan and Pat Badawi baru padan muka...hexhar
ReplyDeleteI don't think they'll be stupid enough to relinquish their post for a by-election because the rakyat will be behind the palace and vote for PAS.
ReplyDeleteDerhaka to a Sultan that is zalim is allowable but Sultan Mizan is one of the most humble of Sultans and is God fearing. I remember once when he was acting King, he made his religious teacher his regent instead of any of his brothers to ensure that the State was in good hands while he was in KL.
I think Idris picked the wrong man to antagonise. The Terengganu rakyat is fully behind the King.
Can I know where is this Datuk from? Is he from the opposition party of also from UMNO itself?Datuk Ahmad Said, 51,
ReplyDeleteCan I know where is thisDatuk Ahmad Said, 51, from? Is this YB from UMNO itself or from opposition party?
ReplyDeleteThe beginning of the end of regime BN UMNO
ReplyDelete22 Terengganu UMNO Adun BANGSAT KURANG AJAR. They have to go back to school & to understand the basic of EQ
There shal be no place for BN UMNO in the next election in Terengganu
This all. goes to show a weak PM
ReplyDeleteMelayu apa ni..?! Depa sedar tak ... busukkan lagi orang Melayu, apa lagi menderhaka Sultan...?
ReplyDeleteDAULAT TUANKU !
GOOD NEWS INDEED....
ReplyDeleteHOPE ALL THE 22 ADUN STAND BY THEIR WORDS AND LET A BY-ELECTION TAKE PLACE.
NO HANTUS, TERENGGANU WILL GO TO THE REAL RAKYATS; NOT HANTUS OF THE PENINSULA...
OBVIOUSLY, THE AGONG AND SULTAN KNOWS THE EXISTENCE OF HANTUS IN LAST ELECTION THAT BROUGHT MORE HANTUS INTO THE ADUNS PAYROLL...
BARISAN RAKYAT WILL REIGN MALAYSIA, LET US ALL HOPE SO... NO MORE FREE LATTE, CIGARS, CHEAP GOMENT CARS, AND MONSOON DRAIN CONTRACTS FOR SOUTH CHINA SEA....
ADA HANTOOOOOO....
heard too when they protested
ReplyDeleteagainst having a non malay as deputy mentri besar in Selangor, the rain came down hard to disperse them. looks like allah is really taking action to make sure justice is served. it looks like the BN moon is waning, and for a good cause. allah knows better.
Its all Pak Lah's fault - for being stubborn in choosing and insisting on Idris. This Idris fellow does not have any rapport with the palace and you cannot administer the state without having good relations with the Palace.
ReplyDeleteIf Pak Lah can kow-tow to the wishes of the Sultan of Johor and Perlis, why not the important state of Terengganu whose Sultan is currently the King?
Another BN Assemblyman would still be an BN Assemblyman and MB but why stubborn with Idris who is just going to cause tension with the ruler?
If the BN Aduns don't like it, they can all resign in protest. No loss here. They can, at the same time, return all their pingats and Datukships as well for not respecting their sultan. And go elsewhere to cari makan.
They all owe their Sultan an apology like what Lim Kit Siang had to do. If Pak Lah has any brains left, he will ORDER all the ADUNs to attend the swearing in ceremony.
Maybe best we have a BN Menteri Besar and all PAS Exco members. That will be great.
To the 22 UMNO ADUN of Terengganu [clearly servants of KJ-proxy, Wan Farid Wan Salleh and NOT of the people of Terengganu]...
ReplyDeleteRESIGN lah EN MASSE, kalu mung beraning! :D
I'm sure there is nothing the people of Terengganu would like better than to have statewide by-elections since a lot of people are quite convinced that UMNO cheated in that state in GE12.
Daulat Tuanku!
ReplyDeleteTerima sajalah Idris. Demi keamanan dan parti.
Difficult to practise what you said?
Melayu must be the dumbest species of man on earth. This is not a question of who should be the MB. This is a question of whether the appointment is sanctioned by the laws and in accordance of the constitution. Melayu will always have this dilemma. So long as it is the raja no matter how unlawful or how unconstitutional just close your eyes and follow the raja. Nama pun raja berpelembagaan so kenalah ikut perlembagaan. Kalau tak nak ikut perlembagaan tak payahlah nak bazirkan duit rakyat buat pilihanraya. Suruh ajelah raja tu pilih MB dia sendiri and save us all the headache of having to watch this sickening drama. Rakyat telah memilih pemimpin mereka melalui pilihanraya period. It is also a question of maintaining a strong and stable government. What good can it bring to the Tganu people if MB is not supported by his ADUN. Lagi baik bagi kat PAS aje, at least whoever the MB is will be supported by their ADUN. Ingatkan rakyat biasa aje yg selalu ada personal interest..raja pun ada ka?? And the new MB pun is not actually a saint. Do some homework first lah Tuanku..
ReplyDeleteNak cakap LIM KIT SIANG biadap dgn raja, haaaa tiba tiba baru tau orang MELAYU sendiri pun biadap rupanya, malah lagi teruk drp LIM KIT SIANG. Eloknya angkat aje sumpah jadi MB, lepas tu bubarkan dewan, buat by elections, lagi bagus kalau PAS menang, biar padan muka YB UMNO, mmg tak reti syukur betullll .... dah menang pun dah syukur, bodohhhhh
ReplyDeleteStep down-lah.
ReplyDeleteindividu is far much more important than party and also the rakyat....KING NEVER BEEN RESPECT ANYMORE...NOT ONLY KIT SIANG TEST THEM BUT THE MALAY MP AS WELL...lets us support the opposition in next coming election....BN MP never has the respect and never show a good example....money and power is what they concern...the peoples of T'ganu should have vote for PAS in next election...only the PEOPLES can teach them a lesson as what happened in Kedah,Perak,Selangor,Kelantan and Penang....the rest of the state...your time will come...cover ur ass nicely
ReplyDeleteJust Great 22 assemblymen resigning as ADUN, we can have another election and vote them all out.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how much they stand to gain if Idris becomes MB - lots of CASH incentives, money making opportunities, goodies, etc...
The Sultan should and must install his own choice which is a better man (no experience in corruption) as the MB.
Sultan & King RULES!!!
let's all strongly condemn the 22 ADUNs for their lack of respect for the Sultan, Umno condemned DAP LKS for his disrespect for the Sultan of Perak earlier, so now will they censure their own kind for such disrespect???
HAHA....UTUSAN now show put it in front page...."UMNO BIADAP !!!!!"
ReplyDeleteBN says one thing
ReplyDeleteBN does the opposite
Telling Kit Siang disrespected the Sultan
Now BN does the same thing
Terengganu BN representatives
No respect to their Sultan
Defying His Majesty’s choice
They are rude less of manners
They threatened to resign
Supporting the former MB
Disobeying order of the Sultan
They should be kicked out from the state
BN says one thing
BN does the opposite
Do the people need BN any more?
The answer in front of their eyes
So is UMNO now going to hold a protest in T'gganu accusing the assembly men of being biadap towards the sultan and demanding their apology and warning them not to "main dengan api"?
ReplyDeleteAnybody willing to take bets on that happening? What a bunch of hypocrites!
Sultans of Malaysia, UNITE.
ReplyDeleteRakyat beridir teguh di belakang DYMM AGONG & Sultan Terengganu.
After PRU12, the Sultans have regained their rightful place. AAB is too dense to know that the rakyat and sultans are really fed up with him.
Sultan Mizan, rakyat terengganu tetap sokong tuanku.
Daulat Tuanku!
Daulat Tuanku!
Daulat Tuanku
I think it's about time, excluding the fact that most commenter's here hates BN must discuss this in a manner of views and principles. Instead of discussing a pretty fundamental issue, people have somewhat gone to a BN bashing frenzy.
ReplyDeleteA very important question is should the Sultan interfere with politics?
I personally think that the palace should not interfere with the democratic decision. I don't care how holy, respected, loved or popular the Sultan may be if he does not like the appointed MB then he should step down as a Sultan and contest in elections. In the case of Perak one must remember that opposition gave 3 names for the Sultan to pick, so he pick one. Plus if DAP were to protest, their representatives alone cannot form the government. In the case of Terrenganu if 22 assemblymen are to boycott then the decision is clearly unanimous, majority wants Idris Jusoh.
It does not matter what the commenters here rave about, even if RPK shouts and cries how Idris Jusoh if an evil/pedophile or whatever he spews out the fact is Terrenganu voted for BN whether you like it or not. Just like the BN supporters have to come to term that Selangor picked Opposition. When they pick BN representatives, these representatives will pick an MB. They already picked an MB, the MB did not break any constitutional laws thus I don't think the Sultan should meddle in.
Maybe the problem is that we have 9 royal families which is quite a hassle. You got 9 kerabats of tengku's and Raja's, LECEH! We should only have one royal family, cheaper and easier.
UMNO leaders & ADUN ARE the SAMASENG, corrupted & no morals at all.
ReplyDeleteOrang2 Melayu, please take note that UMNO leaders & members in parliment that Malaysia been proud of are the "DAJAL".
Ahmad Said terima watikah perlantikan hari ini.
ReplyDeleteWatikah yang sah ialah watikah dari Tuanku/ Pemangku, bukannya watikah dari PM yg dituntut supaya turun.
Nampak sangat Bedolah ni tamak haloba. Tak cukup PM, Mentori Kewangan, Pengerusi BN Penang...Sekarang ni nampak macam pelahap nak jadi Sultan Terengganu/ Agomg pulak dah. Elok buat Suruhanjaya di Raja/ Suruhanjaya Makkal Skati untuk siasat gelagat Bedolah keluarkan dua watikah MB - satu untuk Perlis dan satu lagi untuk Terengganu.
Hello, ingat nak lantik MB, boleh sain surat macam itu food-for-oil surat sokongan kah?
Sejak bila MB-MB Terengganu dilantik dengan tak pakai surat kuning?
Tak habis-habis Zzzzzzzzz dan self-denial
those who insulted LKS over the same issue, calling him names should do the same to these UMNO fellas in Trengganu. If not, they should apologise to Uncle Lim.
ReplyDeletewhat I cannot understand is that when LKS and co wanted to boycott the swearing in ceremony in Perak...eveyone including Umno bigwigs kicked a big fuss over the issue...saying they Menderhaka kepada Sultan....what about Umno members now!...I am surprised that Terengganu Malays are turnign their back on their own Sultan!
ReplyDeletePak Lah should just kick these assemblymen ass or resign!
Bo wonder Barisan lost the election and they will continue to do so in the next election with these attitude! Sedaralah UMNO...sudah kalah mau tunjuk lagak lagi...pergilah!
ReplyDeleteKAEDAH PERLANTIKAN MENTERI BESAR TERENGGANU HENDAKLAH MENGIKUT UNDANG2 BAGI DIRI KERAJAAN NEGERI TERENGGANU 1911 DENGAN PINDAAN PADA TAHUN 1948.01.21 MASEHI BERSAMAAN 1367.3.10.
ReplyDeleteAssalamualaikum perlantikan Menteri Besar tertakluk kpd Undang Undang BAGI DIRI Negeri TERENGGANU 1911 (11.11.1911) DENGAN PINDAAN (DITAMBAH KEPADA UNDANG2 DIRI 1911 PADA 21.01.1948 DIKUATKUASA PADA PADA TARIKH YANG SAMA ( FASAL 1 (2) ) YANG DIZIN.
FASAL 5 UNDANG2 BAGI NEGERI TERENGGANU( YANG DITAMBAH PADA 1948)
FASAL 5 MEMPERUNTUK RAJA MEMERINTAH MENGIKUT UNDAND2. RAJA BERKUASA MELANTIK MB DAN JUA PADA UNDANG2 DIRI NEGERI TERENGGANU TAMBAHAN 1948 DIBAWAH FASAL10(I) DAN FASAL 14(1)(2) .
PERUNTUKAN DIBAWAH UNDANG2 DIRI NEGERI TERENGGANU 1911 FASAL 29 MEMILEH DAN MENJADIKAN MB DAN NAIBNYA ADALAH SEMATA2 HAK BAGI SULTAN (TIDAK DIPINDA)
DIDALAM TAMBAHAN PADA TAHUN 1948 DIPERUNTUKAN DIBAWAH FASAL 10 PERLANTIKAN MB DYMM HENDAKLAH MELANTIK DENGAN SURAT LANTIKAN YANG DITANDA TANGANI OLIH BAGINDA DENGAN MEMAKAI MOHOR NEGERI SEORANG MB MENGIKUT SYARAT2 PERENGAN (1) DIBAWAH SYARAT (2)
FASAL 14 (2)(1) DAN (4) DYMM HENDAKLAH MULA2 MELANTIKAN DAHULU MB UNTUK MENGETUAI MAJLIS MESYUARAT KERAJAAN SEORANG AHLI DUN...
FASAL 14(4) TAKALA MELANTIK SEORANG MB MAKA BOLIHLAH DYMM MENGIKUT TIMBANGAN BAGINDA SENDIRI, MENINGGALKAN MANA2 SYARAT DALAM FASAL 10 YANG MENGHADKAN PILIHAN BAGINDA AKAN MB ITU JIKA SEKIRANYA PADA FIKIRAN BAGINDA MUSTAHAK MENINGGALKANYA KERANA HENDAK MENUNAIKAN KEHENDAK2 FASAL 10 INI.
Jelas sebagai bulan purnama perlantikan MB adalah HAK KUASA MUTLAK BAGINDA DYMM AL-SULTAN, MUKTAMAD.
Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan
ReplyDeleteKesetiaan Kepada Raja dan Negara
Keluhuran Perlembagaan
Kedaulatan Undang-undang
Kesopanan dan Kesusilaan
Our Rukun Negara!
Simple as it is... UMNO are you blinded by the hunger for power and money?
zed zachary, you are the one who should do your homework. the rakyat have voted for the own representatives, but bear in mind that the rakyat didn't vote for the MB. MB is elected by recommendation of the party's president. and Article 70 of Fed Cons stated that the ruler or Yg Dipertua Negeri take precedence over all other person in a matter of the state.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, when ppl tore off the pic of that pickled face EC chairman, pak lah said it's biadap. but when shahidan kassim whines and 22 adun wanted to boycott the Sultan/ceremony, where's pak lah? i think we all don't know that EC chairman, SK and those ADUNs are bapak raja probably.
Now they passed over some info regarding Kijal ADUN to BPR. Who put that fella to contest at the first place? Idris JUsoh tak tau malu. Now, i hope someone pull out files on the rest of the 22 and Idris Jusoh as well.
Tuanku, dulu orang dibuang negeri ke seychelles, sekarang tuanku jangan lah buang mereka ke sana sbb tempatnya lawa. dengan semangat membara mereka, buanglah mereka ke Iraq ataupun sempadan China/Tibet. Kalau takut mereka rindu anak bini, buanglah mereka ke Myanmar dengan tiket ditaja oleh Airasia. Sebelum itu Tuanku,biarlah mereka resign terlebih dahulu dan kita adakan by-election. Lepas mereka kalah, barulah Tuanku nyah mereka. They never do learn their lesson, kan Tuanku?
~anon11.55
sinatra z, i think Sultan also doesn't want to get his hand dirty, that's why Sultan has MB to take care of the State. But after all corruptions and wrongdoings, Sultan also cannot tahan like that! It's his state and i'm sure the Sultan doesn't want ppl to accuse him of being complecent and tidor on duty :D
ReplyDeleteJust like you trusted your own children but if the children did something wrong, i think every parents have to meddle.
~anon11.55
The palace must be really really pissed off with the Idris guy or someone in UMNO to have an unconstitutional standoff like that.
ReplyDeleteKerajaan yang paling "ZALIM" di South East Asia ada lah Malaysia. Mereka telah menipu & menakut nakutkan rakyat untok menoyokong BN UMNO.
ReplyDeleteMereka telah membolot keuntongan hasil bumi untok kepentingan diri mereka dan juga cronies, manakala rakyat hidup dalam kemiskinan.
Kita pernah mendengar cerita "DAJAL" yang akan muncul di akhir zaman, sekarang kita dapat menyaksikan anak cucu "DAJAL" yang bermaharaja lela di dalam parliment BN UMNO di bumi Malaysia yang tercinta.
Bukalah mata dan minda anda siapa itu pemimpin BN UMNO.
Hmm.... I really would like to see Idris and his supporters boycott the swearing-in ceremony. Let's see if they are really brave enough to resign their seats. Jgn cakap tak serupa bikin!
ReplyDeleteThe rakyat of Trengganu will then have to decide whether they are behind their Sultan or their UMNO politicians. Let these UMNO thickheads dig their own grave...
Mana dia badan-badan Melayu yang mengusulkan resolusi MaulidulRasul yang dibelakangnya Yayasan Kajian dan Strategi Melayu Malaysia (YKSMM)kononnya untuk menyatupadukan orang Melayu dengan menanamakan diri mereka sebuah badan bertindak perpaduan. Saya hadir meeting mereka tetapi saya nampak semua ke arah untuk mempertahankan pimpinan UMNO yang sudah lemah. Kalau UMNO menggunakan NGO seperti ini yang tidak credible untuk meneraju agenda mereka, memang patutlah UMNO menghadapi kehancuran. Semuanya adalah kepura-puraan belaka. Pak Lah dan Najib perlu ingat bahawa kekuatan yang pura-pura adalah satu kelemahan yang maha besar. Kalau anda tidak memperbaikinya sekarang, anda akan gugur dalam tempoh yang terdekat. Bangkitlah dari mimpi indah.
ReplyDeleteMelayu ... fikir
ReplyDeletePileh antara
a) menyokong prinsip demokrasi atau
b) kesetiaan pada raja/pembesar atau
c) prinsip moral bahawa idris jusoh is corrupt atau
d) I don;t care atau
e) none of the above
UMNO should accept AGONG decision and move on.
ReplyDeleteThe King can always sack the PM.
This is total dispespect to RUKUN NEGARA........
Kesetiaan kepada Raja dan Negara
(no. 2 of the RUKUN NEGARA )
zed zachary,
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry that you are so shallow. Are you the head of yr family? Ever being an elected class monitor during your school days? Or have you ever been a leader? Put yourself in the shoe of a leader who has 1,000 followers. What matters to you? Not yr people I suppose
Daulat Tuanku!
Khairul Jamaluddin
anonymous (12.24) negera negara yang kamu sebutkan mahu yang biadap ramai sebegini ke?
ReplyDeleteThis is not about BN and the Royalty anymore . it is about the people (PAS/DAP or whatever included) and the Istana. The Istana must not be allowed to dictate terms at the expense of democracy. If anybody allowed this this in the name of party politics then we are all sinned if we evebtually lose our democratic right to choose a leader of our choice because the royalty says otherwise.
ReplyDeleteThe Malays Ruler must remeber that they are there with all the respect because we always looked up to them. Lets not take take that away from the Malays. The Istana must know their role in Malaysia's unique democratic system.
Where TDM ... you have unfinished business TUN !!!
LONG LIVE KINGS!!!!!! DAULAT TUANKU!! ITS ABOUT TIME THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE THE EMPEROR OF MALAYSIA WITH EXECUTIVE POWER!!! DAULAT TUANKU!!!
ReplyDeletefirst kita semua kena ingat that ini bukan keputusan sultan but keputusan MAJLIS PEMANGKU RAJA. dont be too emotional. i support the MPR for NOT choosing idris as mb but this md said...is he rally ok... i am not impress tgk dier dalam sidang dun terengganu ajak orang gaduh etc.... is he really clean or is it a trick by the MPR untuk buat by-election???? hmmmmm
ReplyDeleteTsunami III menimpa BN UMNO
ReplyDeleteIni adalah salah satu "BALA" yang mereka terima akibat keangkuhan pemimpin UMNO yang telah hilang akal dan moral.
Detik detik kejatuhan UMNO telah terbayang dan dapat di lihat bukan sahaja di mata rakyat jelata tetapi rakyat seluruh dunia.
Janganlah selalu mmeburuk burukan dan melimpar fitnah terhadap PAS Ddan juga parti parti lain dengan tujuan untok menutup telor tembelang yand ada di dalam UMNO.
DOA2 orang yang di fitnah dan di zalimi ada lah sangat "mujarab" dan di makbulkan oleh yang maha kuasa.
BERTOBATLAH UMNO sebelum terlambat
All Malaysian must also remember, The Sultan has every right to reject the MB recommended by BN UMNO knowing that majority of UMNNO leader are corrupted & abused their powers in everything.
There's a reason behind for The Sultan to hand pick the MB as it will show the rkayat what sort of leaders and government that UMNO have in Malaysia.
The issue is not about BR or BN.. its about democracy. It about people's choice being taken away.. To the PKR/PAS supporters who now support the royalty on this issue.. what if BA wins but the King decides to appoint someone else to be the PM instead of Anwar? What do you think will be your opinion here?
ReplyDeletethe sultan there is also the Agong right.... wow... talk about balls...
ReplyDeletemana "Kesetiaan kepada raja dan negara?"
I believed that the sultan (now the Agung) should call out his Royal Guards and shake those ADUNS. You guys are in his Highness state, He is the commander in chief. You don't like it, you can still shift. Move out.
ReplyDeleteI suggest to Rembau, Negri Sembilan.
i aint nobody supporter... when lim kit siang said he is not happy w the perak MB... everyone making havoc from it.. said that he disrespect the Royal and bla bla bla.. now same thing happen to BN.. and???? nobody is saying anything.. this is what u call MALAYSIA BOLEH MEDIA... TV3 = TVB (TVBOLEH) the star = THE BOLEH
ReplyDeleteNST to NSB ...
Thank God Sabah has no Sultan. Hentam lah kamu Umno.
ReplyDeleteBEFORE....The People, who? It won't be fair to lump it all on Kit Siang. The entire DAP's Central Executive Committee MUST apologise to the People, the Sultan and the Regent.
ReplyDeleteNOW......The People, who? It won't be fair to lump it all on Idris Jusoh. The entire UMNO MUST apologise to the Sultan and the Regent.
Ingat Al-Maunah?
ReplyDeleteIdris, Rosol dsbnya jangan jadi hero Tamil buat angkara durjana.
Sorang tu, baling batu sembunyi tangan. Sorang lagi, co-conspirator spokesmeng..
I urge the Sultan to expell the 23 UMNO from Terengganu.
ReplyDeleteNi permainan wayang KJ and the Gang di belakang tabir.
ReplyDeleteDi Perlis mereka gunakan adik Sultan untuk menjatuhkan Shahidan Kassim.Kononnya pimpinan pusat setuju melantik Shahidan.Tapi sebaliknya mereka setuju apa yang diperkenankan Sultan kerana itulah yang mereka hendak sebenarnya.Kena klentonglah org yg tak memahami.
Di Trengganu pula mereka tak boleh ikut perkenan Sultan.sebelum ni ADUN-adun ni OK je nak menghadap Sultan dan melantik sesiapa dikalangan mereka. Tapi setelah bermesyuarat dengan pimpinan pusat, seperti mereka lebih takut periok nasi mereka ditutup dari menderhaka pada Sultan.
Inilah yang dikatakan sokongan membawa rebah, dalam keadaan tak disukai oleh rakyat mereka mencurahkan minyak kedalam api supaya seluruh UMNO akan mengikut kedogolan seseorang pemimpinnya.
anonymous 1:47 and all you other voices of 'democracy.' What democracy are you talking about? Do you think the people of Terengganu have had their voice heard during the recent 'elections'?
ReplyDeletePray tell me what benefit has the Monsoon Cup brought to the people there? Why don't you go and talk to them and find out the truth before you scream to wheel out that destroyer of our Institutions, like some hitman to his dark work again.
I'm so sorry that you are so shallow. Are you the head of yr family? Blah blah blah..
ReplyDeleteDaulat Tuanku!
Khairul Jamaluddin
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Khairul Jamaludin is a fine example of orang melayu yg buta lagi bodoh. He will do anything no matter right or wrong as long as it's the raja yg suruh. Go jump off a bridge and he will be the first to jump..shocking really in this 21st century. History has never portrayed Hang Tuah as a hero. If at all history has proven that Hang Tuah is the biggest yesman ever to live for his blind loyalty to the Sultan. What good did it bring to the orang melayu Melaka at that time? Zilch..nada..nothing!! After all the hoopla Hang Tuah was forgiven and made into a demi-god at the expense of Hang Jebat who fought for the principal to uphold the truth and the people of Melaka at that time. And that spelled the end of the kesultanan melayu Melaka. Dan berkuburlah sebuah lagi kerajaan agung suatu masa dahulu. And this is the exact blind loyalty that befalls the fate of the bangsa melayu sekarang and history has its way of repeating itself if kalau kita masih jahil!!
As i hv mentioned earlier, whoever becomes MB is immaterial at this point. What is important is whether the appointment is done in accordance to the federal constitution. Why is the palace meddling with the appointment of the MB? Shouldn't the palace be above politics? Isn't that the people of Tganu had chosen BN to rule for another term?? We have to respect the decision of the people, yess?? no??. Did he not win the support of all but one of the ADUN to form a stable government in Tganu?? We have to respect that as well. Nak sokong ni janganlah sokong membabi buta, biarlah sokong benda yang benar dan bukan yang batil. Malaysia ada undang-undang yg mesti dipatuhi oleh segenap lapisan rakyat. Kalau manusia dah tak ikut undang-undang maka effectively merekanya bukanlah manusia lagi tetapi haiwan!!
Banyak sebab musabab kenapa Pemangku Sultan tak suka Idris but out of respect of the palace, we should not divulge those issues on the other side of the coin why they don't seem to get along. Raja pun manusia jugak, bukan lah nabi. Even nabi pun tidak terlepas dari godaan iblis dan syaitan. Nasib baik dia nabi, inikan pulak raja dalam abad materialistik sekarang ni.
Follow the constitution!! We have laws!! Where is Abdullah?? Prove to the people you are their leader. Jangan nak cakap you're in control when your action speaks otherwise. Melayu dah hilang hala tuju and you are still dreaming. Please sir, if you dont think you're up to the challenge please resign. If not walk the talk and do something!! Make us proud again to be Malaysians!!!!!!!
Zed Zacahary,
ReplyDeleteCan you go and revise your Malacca Sultanate knowledge. The reasons y the empire fell.
Several. One, when the Raja no longer had experienced and loyal advisors (cakap senang in today's scenario mcm itu Tingkat 4 boys). Two, when they were busy looking after their own booties at the expense of the people and the Sultanate (cakap senang mcm sekarang ni, UMNO so-called leaders busy enriching themselves - read audit report, ok?)
You said Malacca Sultanate no progress mah! Aiyyo, it was the first entrepot in this region (hundreds of years before modern Singapore mah!) U know the Arabs, Chinese, Indians etc came to trade. They were not evil like the Westerners. If we are not careful with the current sickness in UMNO/ BN, what happened to the Sultanate can easily happen to M'sia. That's y SIL and Idiot must go. No question about it. Get it?
As for the Terengganu situation the Council comprised experienced members and it was not the decision of Tengku Panglima alone. And what is disturbing is the extreme disrespect that Idris, Rosol and gang have shown to the Palace institution. Hey, don't create another Malacca ok.
Do you want the Council to tell you their reasons? Like Tun Mahathir said, their prerogative mah! Did Pak Lah tell you his reasons for appointing cabinet ministers? Oh yes, surely there are plenty of valid reasons. Hope you visit Kickdefella, Kuda Ranggi, Aisheman etc
Stability? Instability it is when we have a MB/CM who doesn't know how to work with the Ruler/ Governor and who is not devoid of rampant discrimination, cronyism and favouritism.
Why is Patrick Badawi has such a privileged position in Terengganu and Penang.
GE12? Do you seriously think that UMNO's victory was not by foul means? So much so they concentrated their resources in Terengganu and somehow forgot about the other states which fell.
Cukuplah Zed. Rakyat sudah bangkit. Dah ada pilihan utk rakyat? Bukan macam Idris, who keeps on saying Trg still needs him. Or for that matter Zzzzz?
It was only about a week ago that Idris said he would abide by the palace's decisionn- just because he had a so-called letter from Pak Lah. IF Pak Lah loves him so much, kasi lah apa2 post lain.
Rakyat Terengganu dan Istana nak bagi peluang MB lain pulak.
Now paklah VS ^KING^
ReplyDeletemungkinkah ini balasan bagi dosa2 bersekongkol dgn spr memenangkan bn di terengganu?
ReplyDelete6.56PM Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteZed Zacahary,
Can you go and revise your Malacca Sultanate knowledge. The reasons y the empire fell.
Several. One, when the Raja no longer had experienced and loyal advisors (cakap senang in today's scenario mcm itu Tingkat 4 boys). Two, when they were busy looking after their own booties at the expense of the people and the Sultanate (cakap senang mcm sekarang ni, UMNO so-called leaders busy enriching themselves - read audit report, ok?)
You said Malacca Sultanate no progress mah! Aiyyo, it was the first entrepot in this region (hundreds of years before modern Singapore mah!) U know the Arabs, Chinese, Indians etc came to trade. They were not evil like the Westerners. If we are not careful with the current sickness in UMNO/ BN, what happened to the Sultanate can easily happen to M'sia. That's y SIL and Idiot must go. No question about it. Get it?
As for the Terengganu situation the Council comprised experienced members and it was not the decision of Tengku Panglima alone. And what is disturbing is the extreme disrespect that Idris, Rosol and gang have shown to the Palace institution. Hey, don't create another Malacca ok.
Do you want the Council to tell you their reasons? Like Tun Mahathir said, their prerogative mah! Did Pak Lah tell you his reasons for appointing cabinet ministers? Oh yes, surely there are plenty of valid reasons. Hope you visit Kickdefella, Kuda Ranggi, Aisheman etc
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I don't think u get the guy, wahai saudara/dude anonymous 6.56PM... zed was talking about the fall of malacca sultanate, circa 1511.. budak2 pun tahu sejarah kesultanan melaka.. kemasyhuran..keagungan, but what he was pointing out was the fall of the same.. what no progress? semua orang understand the kehebatan kesultanan Melaka..don't just argue for the sake of arguing..
the truth is when such a personality, such as tengku panglima or whoever (if that is what you were saying anonymous 6.56PM) acted as if we are living in the days of kesultanan Melaka circa 1511, with total disregard of the constitution.. that's where we are heading to the same fate as kesultanan Melaka (circa 1511).. we have laws, we have the federal contitution & the state constitution, which must be read together with the former, in order not to become ultra-vires.. & we have the GE.. if the lost of BN in 5 states + WP have been accepted as valid results..why on earth are you raising doubt on election result where the BN has won (Terengganu).. is 'double standard' making a comeback & becoming hip once more? ..it seems, from your take, that is the case with you wahai saudara anonymous 6.56PM...
get your facts right before commenting on others.. no many stands out and voice out their opinion supporting the BN and this "minority" voice is becoming the voice of anti-establishment as you were once.. respect them.. having said that, saudara 6.56PM anonymous, thanks heaps for your contribution to a more civilised, matured & open Malaysia..keep up this kind of comment & you'll end up becoming paklah & his gang too..
good night and good luck!
-Orang Malaysia-
idris jusoh can take up the MB position and shove it up his ass...
ReplyDeleteI think we will soon have a snap election in Terengganu!! There's a chance Barisan Rakyat will win this state SOON!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://malaysiangate.blogspot.com/2...isis-ended.html
Some excerpts:-
"He also said that the unhappy BN assemblypersons would have to wait for the first sitting of the assembly in order to pass a motion of no confidence against the party-less Ahmad.
“In such circumstance, the sultan or the regency council would then have to name another person who enjoys the support of the majority of the elected representatives or call for a snap state election,” he said.
He said that although there would be no state government to request for a dissolution, the palace can still call for a state poll based on the sultan's reserve powers."
hmm..
ReplyDeleteI propose..
Lim Kit Siang trun terengganu and say ..
"All UMNO Adun pls respect Your Sultan, Even I chinese pon tahu mintak maaf dengan Sultan Perak.. inikan you all melayu derhaka pada Sultan yang currently jadi Agong..Daulta Tuanku..!!"
Btw, wheres Anwar??
I think he should camp outside the palace and hold the banner " Daulat Tuanku!!"
Ini bukan masalah sapa MB.. tapi masalah Melayu yang terang2 derhaka..
As for Mat Said.. you should ask PM to sack Perlis MB also since he also againt PM' watikah (watikah?? i though only Istana can issue watikah) :)
“Respect must be given to the rakyat who have given BN the mandate. Respect must also be given to Idris who ensured that BN retained the two-thirds majority in the legislative assembly.”
ReplyDeleteIni statement bodoh dari pengampu KJ & Deris.
Rakyat undi BN for ADUN and MP only. Not MB
nak resign, resignlaaa
Pak Lah pun...no control on this matter
Zed Zacahary, you have said it all that needed to be said on this matter.Indeed you said it well. Most are blinded by their anti goverment stance and it appears to me they cannot think straight. If we are not going to follow the constitution and ignore the law then Malaysia as a country is heading down the slippery road to be a failed state. I felt so great about Malaysia after the election but now reading most of the views here it depresses me.
ReplyDeleteZed has a point. Malaysia is a sovereign state with a "constitutional monarchy" system of governance. As such even the Agong has to respect the laws of the land. We should at least try to separate facts from fiction here.
ReplyDeleteTindakan memperbodohkan rakyat Terengganu kerana mengundi BN adalah tidak wajar sama sekali. Itu adalah pilihan rakyat Terengganu dan ada sebab-sebab tertentu mengapa mereka tidak memilih PAS. Soal Adun BN mahu memilih Menteri Besar bukan soal ingin mengampu KJ atau Pak Lah atau apa-apa sekalipun. Jangan kerana semata-mata atas dasar anti BN perlu seseorang menjadi bodoh dan tuli sama seperti sebahagian dari penyokong/menteri dari BN.
ReplyDeleteSoal Perak juga tidak boleh disamakan dengan keadaan di Terengganu. Adun di Terengganu sepakat mencadang satu nama MB di Perak Sultan diberi 3 Pilihan. Undang-undang Perak menyatakan Menteri Besar perlu beagama Islam. Perlantikan Idris Jusoh tidak melanggar apa-apa peraturan atau perlembagaan. Samaada Sultan berasa diri beliau perlu untuk campur tangan demi nasib rakyat Terengganu itu tidak wajar kerana Pilihan Raya baru sahaja selesai dan Rakyat Terengganu sendiri memilih Nasib mereka sendiri.
Pak Lah perlu menjadi tegas di sini dan memberi kata dua kepada Sultan.
BN memenangi pilihanraya di Terengganu dan Pemilihan Idris Jusoh tidak melanggar apa-apa undang-undang.
"Pak Lah needs to tell the Sultan to go Fly Kite, just like Mahathir once did. But then again that is just wishful thinking.."
KU-LI for PRESIDENCY!!!!
anonymous 10:49 and 11:05,you both imply that His Majesty the Agong is acting against the law.
ReplyDeleteAs you both know so much about the Constitutions at the both the Federal and State levels, please enlighten us with your vast knowledge.
Who will be the MB, doesn't matter to me.
ReplyDeleteWho is right (PM or Sultan), doesn't matter to me.
Who has the right (whatever the constitution says), also doesn't matter to me.
What matters to all of us:
Is our PM in control??
Why does the Sultan suddenly get involved, and doesn't want Idris?? Is he trying to tell us something about this guy??
Why is PM still insisting on Idris, unlike in Perlis, where he gave in to the Sultan's choice??
Hmmmm.....i wonder....
Bro Rocky, Can I suggest we have a petititon in support of HRH The King! (just like the one for Dato' Mukhriz)?
ReplyDeleteAPA yang perlu dilakukan oleh semua pihak di Terengganu sekarang ialah akur dan menghormati keputusan MPPR yang melantik Dato Ahmad Said sebagai Menteri Besar yang baru.
Menurut, Profesor Dr. Abdul Aziz Bari (foto) yang mengulas tentang kemelut politik di Terengganu yang kian panas dan membingungkan, "betul atau salah sudah tidak penting lagi kerana tidak ada apa yang boleh dilakukan."
"Keputusan MPPR adalah berdasarkan kuasa budibicara dan ini ada elemen yang subjektif. Ia tidak boleh dipersoalkan.
"Lagipun Sultan tidak boleh dibawa ke mahkamah: Mahkamah Khas Raja-Raja cuma menangani tindakan peribadi. Perlantikan Menteri Besar adalah tugas rasmi".
Dr. Abdul Aziz berkata sebab itulah pihak-pihak yang tidak puas hati perlu diam dan jangan membuat hal-hal yang sia-sia.
"Menganjurkan tunjuk perasaan membantah tidak akan mendatangkan apa-apa. Mereka perlu menunggu dewan bersidang dan mengusulkan undi tidak percaya kepada Ahmad untuk menjatuhkannya", kata Pensyarah Undang-Undang UIAM itu lagi.
Beliau menambah komen dan kutukan Perdana Menteri juga tidak berguna kerana beliau tidak ada kena mengena dalam soal perlantikan di peringkat negeri.
Dr. Abdul Aziz menambah sekiranya Ahmad berjaya dijatuhkan melalui undi tidak percaya maka MPPR perlu melantik ADUN lain yang dirasakan mempunyai sokongan majoriti.
"Atau pun terus membubarkan dewan supaya pilihan raya boleh diadakan agar rakyat dapat membuat keputusan!"
Pakar Perlembagaan dari UIAM itu berkata dalam Perlembagaan Negeri – dan juga Persekutuan – ada peruntukan di mana ketua negeri boleh "memprorog atau membubarkan dewan.
"Peruntukan ini dinyatakan tanpa ada permintaan dari kerajaan yang ada. Saya fikir ini boleh digunakan oleh Sultan atau MPPR dalam keadaan seperti yang wujud di Terengganu sekarang".
Dr. Abdul Aziz menyatakan bahawa senario di Terengganu tidak pernah berlaku. Beliau menyalahkan ahli-ahli politik yang cuba menipu dan mengelat dalam pilihan raya.
lets all go on a diet of telur and garlic in preparation for voluntary services for Zoro's gas chamber for the 22 biadaps.....Zorro take note!!
ReplyDeleteUMNO is taking a great risk here, by confronting the Sultan. Ask any UMNO leaders and they will tell you UMNO/BN did well in Saluran 1 during the recent election. Saluran 1 is for the elderly. The elderly, especially the Malays respect their Sultans. UMNO now wants to risk offending these elderly? Hasn't UMNO done enough to offend the younger generation already?
ReplyDeletei don't know what's the problem here. It seems that no one understand what's going on! are you reading the same thing as i did?
ReplyDeleteit's not like the Palace elects a PAS assemblyman! They elect BN, therefore valid. the problem now is, those conniving BN decided to sack the elected guy from Umno, therefore he's not a BN anymore and he can't be representing majority.
anyway, idris "qada n qadar' jusoh said...he respects the decision bla bla bla. so rosol can just let it rest la rite? but then again idris needs someone to do the dirty job for him.
Tuanku can banish them at Pulau Wan Man. No need for Iraq, Myanmar etc.
~anon11.55
Saya cadangkan agar Pak Lah pergi mengadap Sultan T'ganu untuk mendapatkan penjelasan kenapa Sultan tidak memperkenankan perlantikan Idris Jusoh sebagai MB. Jangan pakai media and ahli DUN yang lain untuk meluahkan perasan. Ini jelas perbuatan yang biadap terhadap Sultan T'ganu yang juga DYMM Yang Dipertuan Agung. Jangan orang Melayu sendiri yang derhaka kepada Sultan. Kenapa asyik nak berjumpa di Sri Perdana. Pergi mangadap Sultan dan minta penjelasan. Adakah kerana Idris dikatakan menyalah gunakan kuasa dan menghabiskan duit kerajaan negeri bukan pada rakyat tapi untuk kroni Pak Lah dan KJ! Adakah kerana selama ini, Sultan tidak dapat meluahkan perasaannya terhadap pentadbiran UMNO di T'ganu yang merampas hak rakyat kerana tidak ingin dikatakan mencampuri hal pentadbiran negeri? Jadi, pergilah mengadap Sultan. Jangan lagi nak tunjuk kuat dan biadap.
ReplyDeleteDari Yang Resah
The thing is, it wasn't the sultan who chose Datuk Ahmad Said. The Sultan is now the Agong, and his young son is the acting sultan. Due to his young age, he doesn't decide on anything. The Regent Advisory Council does that for him. This council consists of 7 members of the royal family (I think) mostly uncles of the sultan/king and includes a businessman and a practicing lawyer.
ReplyDeleteRaja adil raja disembah
ReplyDeleteraja zalim raja disangga
AMPUN TUANKU!SEMBAH PATEK HARAP DIAMPUN,HAPUSKAN SAJA 'Kurang AJAR pembesar ADUN MELAYU terengganu.'
RAMAI LAGI YANG MELAYU BOLEH MEMINPIN TRENGGANU!
RimauTua
Agree with Typhoon Sue. Neither the Agong nor his son appointed Mad Said as the MB. It was the Regent Advisory Council who appointed him and the decision is backed by the 7 UMNO Division Head(except Besut as per what is claimed by Tg Putera).
ReplyDeleteThe case in Perlis is different as Isa was backed by 9 of the ADUN while Shahidan was only backed by 5 of the ADUN. In Terengganu, Idris is backed by 22 of the 24 ADUN (the other two are Said and Idris - Isn't it obvious someone is lobbying for himself?). Most of these 22 ADUNs has worked with both Idris and Said since the last PRU. They must have seen how these 2 guys worked and thus decide to give their support to Idris. There must be a reason to it isn't it?
I believe most of you are professionals and have worked with so many people. After 4 years of working together, anyone could give their opinion and make a judgement on who is better between your two colleagues isn't it? It's the same scenario here.
In my personal opinion, what Idris has done to Terengganu in these 4 years was really great. If you remember, during Wan Mokhtar's time, people visit Terengganu for its turtle and beautiful islands. But after PAS took over, I can bet most of you don't even think of Terengganu in your to-visit-during-holiday list. But now, with Taman Tamadun Islam, Monsoon Cup, Endurance Cup and Visit Terengganu Year 2008, Terengganu is in your list again.
So, think again before you start bashing on people. It actually refletcs on you.
-Anak Terengganu-
Anak Terengganu wrote:
ReplyDelete"But now, with Taman Tamadun Islam, Monsoon Cup, Endurance Cup and Visit Terengganu Year 2008, Terengganu is in your list again.
So, think again before you start bashing on people. It actually refletcs on you."
If this is the case you would surely have all data to support your assertions.Take out the 'rent a crowd'that follow 'MB'Patrick when he's in town, what is the exact number of increase in visitors? And please, do illuminate on how exactly these these stupendous events have exactly benefitted the ordinary people there.Aren't most still below the national income average?
Hell ooo... cindy. Since when do selection of MBs based on "who can work"...???
ReplyDeletethe royalties and the rakyat do not want UMNO anymore. when will pak lah get that into his sleepy head.
ReplyDeletewake up boy!! wake up
Anon 12:04,
ReplyDeleteHave you even been to Terengganu recently? Have you tried to book a hotel room during the events? Have you go to Losong to buy the keropok or Pasar Payang to buy batik during the events? Don't let me start with buying breakfast at 9 am or tea at 5pm.. Do that and you tell me. I go back to Terengganu every now and then and I have experienced the difference. Some people haven't even been to Terengganu and they talk like they know everything.
Cindy (Anak Terengganu),
ReplyDeleteSince when is Terengganu in a better situation than it was compared to the time of Wan Mokhtar? What is 'better' in your own interpretation? Do you even live in Terengganu to claim it is better or do you only go back once in a blue moon to even understand the real situation there? Have you compared the 'better' Terengganu with Kelantan lately? Economically? Who is better off? Terengganu? Or Kelantan? If you understand the situation, Terengganu should have been better than Kelantan decades ago, since it is an oil producing state. Just like Kuwait or a state of the Mid East. But look at Terengganu now, still a poorer state compared to Kelantan, despite the fact it produces oil that makes Petronas one of the blue chip company of the world. So where do you say the life of people in Terengganu is better? What's your fact? You could get something better without BN but no, you would settle for JUST a Taman Hadhari and a Monsoon Cup and the unused Masjid Kristal, and you are proud to call it 'kemajuan'. So tell me, who benefits from all these? The Terengganu people or only few cronies?
Open up your eyes please, I can talk and compare because I used to study and live in Terengganu back when it was a state under BN. Please don't forget, just like Kelantan, Terengganu govt PAS back then had to take care of the debt that was left behind by BN govt before they can build the state. So use your common sense, where can PAS find funding to pay BN's debt and at the same time work to develop Terengganu? Impatient you are not people of Terengganu, you should learn from Kelantanese. 18 years and now Kelantan is way more developed than Terengganu. Soon, BN can never get its grip over Kelantan, because the Kelantanese will manage their own resource of oil and gas, with no interference from BN.
Please get some grip on reality. BN is going down under 6 feet.
cindy @anak terengganu wrote: "Have you even been to Terengganu recently? Have you tried to book a hotel room during the events? Have you go to Losong to buy the keropok or Pasar Payang to buy batik during the events? Don't let me start with buying breakfast at 9 am or tea at 5pm.. Do that and you tell me. I go back to Terengganu every now and then and I have experienced the difference. Some people haven't even been to Terengganu and they talk like they know everything."
ReplyDeleteThere we go, "during the events" when all we see is MB Lim with his rent-a-crowd hangers on covene to flash off their latest toys. Pray tell me what is it like after these events? Show me the numbers, the hard facts to support your claims or who is the one claiming to know everything. What difference are you talking about and whose difference? And yes, I have lived and been many many times to Terengganu over the course of 23 years and in fact, my children were born there, so I do know 'something.'
anon 12.04
cindy @ anak terengganu
ReplyDeleteYou have the demeanor of one who would fit very nicely with the type of crowd that floats in with these 'marvelous' events. Yes, do your bit for the conscience in helping out the poor locals then.
Now where's the bunch of umnoputras who criticised Lim Kit Siang of being disrespectful to the Perak royal family and demanded he apologised publicly, when you need them? When the same thing is done by umnoputras, then it's not considered disrespectful ke?
ReplyDeleteKatalah Derih dapat jadi MB dan Sultan boikot dan tak mau hadir upacara, baginda pun tak mau sign surat watikah...bolehkah Deris jadi MB? Padan muka AAB, Kera Jantan dan Pat Badawi. Jangan bagi baginda murka, you mesti tak suka!!
ReplyDeleteCindy Anak Terengganu,
ReplyDeleteLet me help you to rationalize a wee bit here. You claim 'during these events' hotels are fully booked. What a pity. See and figure the difference. Which is better, fully booked all year round even during weekends or fully booked only 'during those events'?
Well, let me compare Terengganu with Kelantan. In Kelantan, the hotels are mostly booked even during weekends. And most of the best hotels in Kelantan are ranged from RM150-RM300. And mostly those are booked earlier than the regular hotels. No need for a Monsoon thingy to happen, it attracts in crowds every single weekend, don't need to even mention school holidays, let alone the big Rayas of Malaysia. They don't have bizzare structures to lure in crowd from all over Malaysia, they are unique in their own ways, and mysterious in their own ways.
You see, what you need in Terengganu is the situation that is happening in Kelantan. A once a year thingy is sure not gonna help Terengganu folks, it will only help those who love limelight and glamour, that's all. After the 'great' event, Terengganu is left quiet and a laid back state with only nice places to visit but not so much strength in economics for the average people.
I hope the Terengganu people rejects BN altogether, and stand loyal to PAS. Follow what the people of Kelantan did, and now they owe BN nothing.
If we want the consitution to be sacred and upheld, then we cannot let our emotions get the better of us to the extent of ignoring the constitution. Dr. Faruqi (I believe he is the law lecturer in UiTM) had written that when the selected MB can demonstrate that he has the support of a majority of the ADUNs, then the discretion the ruler has in selecting the MB is nominal. The MB would not be able to survive a no confidence motion without the support of a majority of the ADUNs as have been shown previously in Kelantan and Selangor.
ReplyDeleteCheers.
Kepada Tuanku-Tuanku Raja-Raja dan Sultan-Sultan ...
ReplyDelete"Ampun Tuanku, sembah patik mohon diampun,
Dalam kecelaruan pemerintahan secara demokrasi sekarang, patik bersyukur kepada Allah Taala kerana negara kita masih mendaulatkan Tuanku.
Dari kecil patik dilatih untuk mengikrarkan KESETIAAN patik KEPADA RAJA dan negara, maka itulah ikrar yang patik pegang selagi Tuanku menjadi penaung Agama Islam yang patik cintai.
Patik berdoa agar Allah terus merahmati pemerintahan Tuanku dan terus memberi hidayah kepada Tuanku.
Daulat Tuanku!"
~ Rakyat taat Raja & Sultan
UMNO BIADAB UMNO BIADAB THE RAKYAT RESPECTS THEIR AGUNG... UMNO PLAYING WITH FIRE.. ARE THEY AFRAID IF THEY LOSE THE MB POST, ALL THEIR CORRUPTION DEEDS WILL SURFACE... ALL THE CANS OF WORMS OPENED ???
ReplyDeleteAmpun Tuanku. SEMBAH ATEK HARAP DIAMPUN.
ReplyDelete- Pemimpin yang Menderhaka hendaklah dibuang dari Trengannu serta ditarik segala kebesaran yang telah diberikan.
- Satu contoh yang amat Biadap sebagai pemimpin yang hendak ditunjukkan kepada rakyat.
- Muka tak tahu malu, dah tuanku tak berkenan sudahlah - pergilah cari kerja jual Keropok Lekor ke, buat baju batik. Ingatlah segala kekayaan yang Allh beri hanyalah penjaman semata-mata, bila-bila dia boleh tarik semula.
Cili-man.
anonymous 10:01, pls read malik imtiaz's take on the issue
ReplyDeleteOrang ganu have been raped dry by BN since masa Wan Mokhtar lagi, no surprise here. >30 yrs of blessed oil from Allah what do we have to show to other people? 2nd poorest state in Malaysia, that's what it is.
ReplyDeleteTo those yg came to Ganu every now and then to marvel at stupendous events created by BN to delude Ganuians and say nice thing about Ganu is a sham. RM800 million a year and what can you show? Incompleted projects? Ganu is still 2nd poorest state. Outside of KT, what do you see?
To me it is irrelevent whether Mat Derih or Mat Said becomes MB, as long as BN are in power, Ganu will continue be raped of their own money. Persoalan who has majority backing is subjective. Based on current showing who has majority backing? Biadap kat sultan Derih or gangsta Mat Said? Why has Wan Hisham lost ADUN seat but Razali won Parlimen? People are not stoopid anymore. To say BN won Ganu fair and square is self-deluding. Sape yg kat Ganu tahu berpuluh2 bas masuk with police escort. BN machinery said it was 50-50 a day before pilihanraya. The whole country was tsunamized and people in Ganu backed BN to the hilt? X-Files pun takde crite mcm nih....
Look at anak2 kita punya future. Look at anak2 kita punya future...what good comes out of this? We are talking about Tuanku Mizan here who has Ganu people backing. Know him before you think this decision is made for his personal interest. Ask orang Ganu, ask his buddies, not friends/acquiantance but buddies coz he attended sekolah biasa if you want to know him. I trust him to decide for the good of Ganu people
Ganu Ladang,
DAULAT TUANKU!
Anonymous 3.08PM,
ReplyDeleteI support your cry for a freedom from the clutches of UMNO/BN in Terengganu, once and for all.
Freedom for Terengganu!
-from the land north of you. ;)
My question is T'ganu is blessed with oil. So how come it is the 2nd poorest state in M'sia?? In my opinion, the Agung wants what's best for the rakyat in T'ganu.. Respect for the King please...
ReplyDeleteUTUSAN now show put it in front page...."UMNO BIADAP !!!!!"
ReplyDeletebefore "DAP BIADAP"
wow! matching..........
who's the leader?
kick him!
Kempas, Johor.
It's a shame to UMNO itself...y nak oppose Mat Said? Nothing's wrong with him what! In fact he could be much better and lebih berani dr Idris Jusoh yang ikut telunjuk PM and konco2nya! Mesti ada kepentingan y nak sgt si idris jusoh ni jadi MB. Agong pilih Mat Said for the Rakyat and not for the politicians!!!Wake up Terengganu people!What's wrong with your people? And What is wrong with Malaysia nowadays???Dah lah BN kalah teruk and now nak biadap dgn Agong pulak? I hope Agong is firm with his decision. All the best to u Mat Said and the people of Terengganu!
ReplyDeletegive dato' ahmad a chance to bury idris down
ReplyDeletei noe he can do b8er than dat idiotic idris
he's a fuck
Words of Prince..
ReplyDeleteMaka bertempiaran larilah Demang Demang Bangsat dari AmenoPura mengadap Memanda Tua mengadu hal akan Bendahara Dris di murkai Sultan......Maka Memanda Tua yg baru tersedar dari Lena..pun tersentak lalu berteriak.
"Cehh..! tak tahu Undang undang ker...raja Tnganu nie,,?"
Maka Memanda Tua yg. Tak Sedar Diri..pun memangil juak juak bangsatnyer dari madutiga TV..agar segera dihebahkan keseantario pelusuk dunia Katakan Pada Semua .bahawa Rakyat Amenopura telah memilih Parti Bangsat Nansialna untuk terus memimpin negara ini..jangan ada yg cuba memperkota kotekan Parti Bangsat Nansialna ini....!!
Aper aper..pun...
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